Joe Alwyn and Taylor Swift have managed to keep their 5-year relationship out of the spotlight for the most part. But it’s hard to keep a low profile when a couple collaborates and the results win Grammys. In an interview with The Guardianthe 31-year-old star of the upcoming Sally Rooney TV adaptation Conversations with friends Alwyn (a bit) explained why he didn’t dwell on the intense interest in their love life and what it was like to write songs with one of the most beloved pop songwriters of the modern era. .
“It was a surreal lockdown bonus… To put it mildly,” Alwyn said of his collaboration – under the pseudonym William Bowery – with Swift on the Folklore songs “Betty” and “Exile”. Alwyn belatedly received a Grammy for his role as co-producer of six songs on the album, which won Album of the Year at the 63rd Grammy Awards in 2021.
Alwyn said musical mind-melding was never the official plan. “It wasn’t like, ‘It’s five o’clock, it’s time to try to write a song together,'” he explained. “That came from messing around on a piano, and singing badly, and then being heard, and being, like, ‘Let’s see what happens if we get to the end together.'” The Key, Alwyn said , was that there was there was no expectation of pressure on the collaboration.
“I mean fun is such a dumb word, but it was great fun. And it was never a work thing, or a ‘Let’s try to do this because we’re going to release this’ thing. It was like baking sourdough in lockdown,” said the actor who played “a bit of a terrible guitar” in a school band called Anger Management when he was 12. “The Grammy was obviously this ridiculous bonus.
As for what it’s like to date one of the most famous singers on the planet, Alwyn said he tries not to dwell on it. “It’s not something I think about, unless I’m in situations like this, and someone says, ‘How’s it going?’ and I have to think about what to say about it,” he said, adding, “It’s [the relationship] but not for others.
And despite being “aware” of the huge interest in their private adventures, Alwyn swore it wasn’t something he spent time thinking about. “It’s just not something that I’m particularly interested in, or have much interest in nurturing, I guess, because the more it’s nurtured, the more you open a door for intrusion,” said he declared. “I think it’s just my response to a culture that increasingly expects everything to be given. If you don’t post about how you make your coffee in the morning, or if you don’t let anyone take a picture when you walk out your front door, is that private? I don’t know if that’s the case. So I don’t really feed that.